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Poland - Holland game

The Netherlands national team seems to be on a roll, most likely winning the group and booking their tickets for the WC2026.

However, a closer look at the latest disappointing match versus Poland shows that the Dutch weaknesses are still there, zero improvement, and doesn’t make for high expectations going into the World Cup in 7 months time.

Full disclosure: I am one of those people that believe we have enough quality in terms of players to be one of the potential winners of that sought after Cup. We have players on the payroll of some of the biggest clubs in Europe.

But somehow, Koeman can’t seem to make it click. Yes, we had two pretty decent games versus Spain (we didn’t win though) but the WC Qualification games were pretty low standard and the only reason we top the group is because the group we’re in is weak and our main competitor lost a game they shouldn’t have (Poland).

What about some ambition

So, as one of the contenders for the title (self proclaimed) you’d expect the Dutch to demonstrate their ambition in a game that started in a festive stadium. Finland had just lost their match versus Malta (Huh!?) which meant Holland and Poland were both virtually qualified for a play-off or direct flight to the West. Should Oranje lose versus Lithuania and should Poland beat Malta with 13 goals difference (or more) our direct ticket will be in jeopardy.

I was a bit in shock watching them play. I was convinced the mediocre games from the last window, in combination with the proximity of that WC ticket and the fact that Finland lost would turn this game into a fiesta of football, but it was very tough to watch this.

On the Dutch TV, analyst Rafael van der Vaart even decided to leave the studio during the 2nd half to go home! ( note: he was actually having food poisoning, but maybe it was football poisoning).

But from the first couple of minutes it was clear that Oranje had serious issues with their opponent, and this is why.

Tactical Mismatch

Poland plays a 3-4- and Koeman prefers the 4-2-3-1. This mismatch has given Koeman headaches before and again, he is not able to deal with it. Whenever Poland has proper ball possession, they attack with 5, while Holland has 4 defenders to deal with it.

This means Poland can find the free man all the time. Should Frenkie or Ryan drop deep, we get a more even balanced situation, same if one of the wingers tracks back.

But from the start it is clear that Koeman wants Gakpo and Malen to remain high up on the pitch and wants the backs to deal with the wingbacks.

The result is that both Geertruida and Van de Ven need to deal with two opponents at times, and need to choose. Below you can see it clearly.

Every time Poland reaches their wingbacks, Oranje’s problems are clear to see. In the 2nd minute of the game, Poland gets a 100% chance as a result of this situation.

Below you can see that Van de Ven isn’t close enough to Cash and Geertuida needs to deal with two players.

It is easy to blame Geertruida for the chance but he has to deal with two opponents. Cash ends up being Poland’s free man and he is usually not the guy you want to allow to cross the ball in. Below you can see it again.

Positioning and communication

Poland’s goal is not the result of this, however, but the result of bad positioning in the turn around. In the 42nd minute, we have 6 players in front of the ball but our defenders have not pushed up to close the distances.

Timber and Virgil aren’t even in the shot below! We have enough players in our rest defence but they’re too wide, there is too much space for Poland to play through. And they do!

Timber loses the duel with Lewandowski, Van Dijk is yards behind the last line and breaks the off-side while Gravenberch doesn’t pick the runner Kaminski up.

Geertruida is also asleep and Verbruggen runs out of his area, only to realise he shouldn’t and drops back giving Kaminski the control over the situation: 1-0.

Early in the second half, a good move by Gakpo creates the 1-1, scored by Memphis who was sloppy but at least got himself at the right spot, like a true ball magnet for the 1-1.

But right after the equaliser, Poland creates two big opportunities and in both cases Geertruida has to deal with multiple opponents.

Koeman could have and should have dealt with this during the break and Virgil and Frenkie are players you expect to sort this out on the pitch. But no!

And again!

It happens to Mickey Van de Ven as well on the other side.

It’s only after the debilitating flare break, that Oranje starts to play a bit more compact with Malen and Gakpo playing more closely to the Polish wingbacks. As a result, Poland is less threatening and as Oranje also starts to be less sloppy in possession, the Polish threat diminished.

Poland had more attempts on goal and a higher xG, which makes it clear that good players and a coach with a great playing career is not enough to impress at the World Cup. We need to work hard on our tactical plans, our execution, our creativity and grit.

I’m sure we’ll win against Lithuania and should we walk of the pitch 5-o, I expect the Dutch players to be cocky and confident again, chest forward and chin up, but that swagger is unwarranted as they – again – were quite rubbish against a mid-level national team (like Poland).

We’ll need to beat Argentina, Brazil, USA, Japan, Portugal, Spain, England and France if we want to be world champions. In this form, we won’t even get to play these nations…

22 Comments

  • manoj kumar says:

    Jan, you are right on Frimpong. Counter attacking football from Poland was on the cards. It was a mistake on the part of coach. Your observations on the formation of Poland are accurate.

  • manoj kumar says:

    I mean formation played by Poland

  • wilson says:

    I have a slightly different variation to Jan break down. Playing with makeshift LBs especially when they are CBs always have an adverse impact on defense. They simply don’t have that off the block speed to close of attackers typically in those counter situations. when dumfries or Frimpong play, tatically when they go forward and which has been a feature under Koeman, the LB drops to LCB and LW drops to LWB. I mean this is what Koeman has stuck to since his arrival unless injuries. To think about it given the non availability of either Frimpong or Dumfries and knowing Poland posses speedy fullbacks/ WBs in cash and zalewski, it goes to show koeman was just too complacent thinking its gonna work ) more defensively, makeshift) and looking at how both flanks were exploited it just backfired. I mean Geertruida already looks heavy playing CB and expecting him to motor up and down at RB is just reckless. Got the taste of his medicine, tatically outclassed and why not, predictable given he has been conservative in his approach. The polish coach simply did his homework and though the result doesn’t matter, this is simply what’s to come if or when the Dutch go up vs teams who have more conventional coaches.

    Also another think to note from Koeman’s past tenure as coach, he is good when the team is good ( players, individual quality, composition) but when that same team start struggling or when there is a dip in their form he is not the coach who can typically get them out of the woods. And usually is shown the exist. Slightly different scenario here but this was the same story in 2018-2019 after that successful nations league when he left in the middle of the EC qualifiers and took the side door to Barcelona.The reason why I bring this up is because the current Dutch team is in the same phase in context to player form, club outings and then coming up to perform in NT. Few exceptions here and there but overall from backline to midfield to forwards is just looking flat. I mean it is what it is and it has caught up to Koeman with the players that he invested in line with his tatical approach and there is no way out of the woods but to GO WITH THE FLOW like easy group, Knock out round draws, drag to QF or SF if and claim he did good. No losses in the qualifiers etc. maybe Frimpong could change things around which he single handingly has shown but as big ask when he injury prone and expecting he can be dependable in every game. Dumfries miss vs Poland and I’m thinking how different it would have been if he would have played. Again vs zalewski he would have to drop back, how much this would have affected his attacking game is anyone’s guess. I always see that as dumfries major downfall. If teams sustain consistent attack on his flank, his work load increases from going forward to now defensively. This in turn nullifies the very tatic that koeman depends on. Anti clock flow.

  • Emmanual says:

    @Wilson…tactics and koeman are on opposite spectrum,he doesn’t even know the spelling of tactics..so forget about tactics,we are F@##ked by KNVB by clown to spoil this generation,Just like Roberto Martinez of portugal..so koeman has a company…

    Dumfries has zero press resistance ,so he will be soft target,so does his flank,i have not seen dumfries making any impact other than we beat france 6 years ago.by 2-0..

    Geetruida was a victim more of,does he lacks the pace on wings?i think he has a decent speed,not like Blind…Just like Jan said,he got little support from gravenberch..but Geetruida is not our problem,what about van dijk who plays complacent and trying block with Booty?..i dont when Timber has played CB for arsenal,its a long time.may be as makeshift center back he played 30 minutes in an year…its all koeman,he has messed up this team by not calling right players,saving his favorite ones and using the make shift players eg;Xavi as right winger
    timber as CB
    Van de ven and Ake as LB…that kills te game flow..
    My note…
    Frenkie and gravenberch duo does not work,they look complacent,nonchalant,i think gravenberch should be benched we should start with Reinders and Frenkie.i will use kees smit as no10..third midefilder,he gives vibe,trickery ,energy,shooting accuracy,work rate,fast legs,complete package…
    Gravenberch is getting noted at liverpool ,just like Gakpo,but yeah gravenberch still no1 on team sheet,many pool fans thinks he is sensational playmaker no 10/or no 8 not destroyer,i think pool are looking for destroyer..i wish koeman starts gravenberch as no behind striker….
    Memphis and weghorst should stop playing for NT and retire for the better of NT,if they want NT to win the cup(i know they wont ,they are too selfish for that)those players are just groin hair of Bergkamp who retired at 30 from NT..

  • Emmanual says:

    People think ,italy loss to Norway is surprise disaster..those are just fools,Norway,Turkey,Austria, are really good teams ,we cannot beat those teams with koeman infact..We cannot beat an italy who lost to Norway,thats how bad we are under koeman..
    People think Emmauel emegha is a saviour,he will bet better than Depay,i dont think that,there are 100 strikers like emegha out there in various teams,there is nothing special about him..He is lucky that He has no compettion ,meerdink injured and Depay weghorst..
    i would take anyday Brobbey over current malen and Depay/Wegorst….

    Addai is a starting games for Comom regular after injury,he is so fast,trciky dribbler who unsettles defense,the falir is there.i would use him as back up for Frimpong…
    Simons—————-Gakpo——————-Frimpong
    ————————Gravenberch—————————-
    ——–Reinders——————Frenkie————————
    Hartmann—Van de ven— Deligt———Timber
    ———————Roefs—————————– are the most inform players we have ,if koneman can play van den as left back,definitly he can play gravenberch as no10…or if he played stupidly Timber as CB,offcourse gravenberch can play no 10, and one trick pony Gakpo as striker…
    on Bench
    Summerville—————–Brobbey—————addai
    —————————–kees smit——————————-
    ———-Quinten———————–Weiffer——————-
    Hato—Virgil————Van hecke————–Read/Geetruida,
    ————————Verbruggen————————————–
    on squad
    Flekken
    Dumfries(for experience)
    Meerdink
    Schouten
    yeah No more Depay,Weghorst,
    kluivert and geetruida depends on form,Ake is not playing at all..At least hato plays at least once in a week

  • Jan says:

    Norway is a candidate for Dark Horse candidate for the WC win. They butchered Italy.

  • Jan says:

    Wilson’s comments are interesting but somehow the readability of his comments are not great. As if it was copied/translated? Some sentences didn’t really make sense.

    I do agree CB usually are different re: speed versus backs, but you can’t say Mickey Van de Ven lacks speed. That is simply ridiculous.

    The comments about the backs moving into midfield and/or moving up are not so relevant versus a 5 man attack.

    In my view, Malen can play as wing back (he has the speed and legs) but Koeman wanted Geertruida to deal with the left wingback of Poland. Virgil and Timber could have taken Lewandowski. Geertruida moving into midfield to cover the one 10 and Frenkie taking care of the other 10. Mickey could have dealt with right wing back and Kluivert could have used the right wing to drift into.

    But no. Koeman didn’t think that was needed.

    During the press conference for the Lithuania game, he said something that made my brain explode:

    Interviewer: “I think Mathijs de Ligt will play in the next game?”
    Koeman: “Why?”
    Interviewer: “You spent some time talking to him one on one.”
    Koeman: “Oh that was not about that. We were talking about the Poland game. Because Mathijs knows how to deal with 3-4-3 as Man United plays like this as well.”

    And I am thinking…. Why would you have that conversation AFTER the game versus Poland!!! You should have that conversation BEFORE the game. You should have seen what they were going to do and plan for it.

    Now he is again blaming the players!!

    “I expected more from the players. I expected that they would have dealt with it, but they didn’t”.

    And none of the journalists said: “Eh sorry Koeman, but that is your job!! Your job is to A) come up with a game plan based on your expectations of the tactics and B) change it swiftly if you expectation was wrong.”

    It’s such a clownsworld at the moment. Not just on the pitch. Off the pitch as well.

    Koeman gets it wrong. Doesn’t fix it during the first half. And then blames the players.

    I do believe we have the players, but the main issue here is our coach.

  • Emmanual says:

    OranjeNT doesnt deserve this Dumb coach…Too much of a Dumb

  • Emmanual says:

    @Jan first you should tell Malen to head properly when he has a open fre header chance…then he can defend..Malen cannot defend,too light weight..Gakpo can but he will not,he thinks he is super star..

  • wilson says:

    @ Jan

    “ copy and paste” lol. Off the block speed I meant was standing start. Van der ven builds up on his speed on a longer distance. I’m shorter distance it’s often a catch up.. The polish played well committing that extra man in most phases including in defense like double teaming gakpo.. even you can see this in pictures above and you particularly have to point the finger at the midfield and how effective they were in providing cover to the backline in terms of dropping back and closing down the spaces. You can see that last picture above where it’s very evident how compact the defenders are drawn into the box committing to polish players while cash is arriving at the back unmarked. It kept happening on both flanks

    It’s also laughable to even think that a player like Geertuida would have contained the pace of zalewski and as you pointed out as to what Koeman might have thought as game plan.speed vs muscle. Totally mismatch. I think when Timber switched to RB things improved in context to this.

    For this one I really don’t know from where or how you interpreted this.

    “The comments about the backs moving into midfield and/or moving up are not so relevant versus a 5 man attack.”

  • Jan says:

    Good win. First half sluggish, trying to find openings. Good goal Reijnders after high press De Jong (assist Frenkie for the vinegar pissers). Penalty was a joke. Where is this game going towards. Hand was in natural position. Hardly touched a finger. Ball didn’t get diverted at all. Sad to see Virgil push the ref for a review.

    Simons goal was a cracker, but Malen’s run demonstrated exactly what Malen can do. Run in space, direct line to goal, as if playing in a 4-4-2.

    Decent performances all around, although Reijnders too much risk when playing in Frenkie role.

    I liked what I saw from Emegha and in particular from Valente. Ake solid, De Ligt solid. Gakpo on the front foot.

    Now hoping, praying that Wim Jonk will wait for Koeman in a dark alley somewhere and roughs him up.

  • Emmanual says:

    Under koeman it was always sluggish…Time to call kees smit for no10 role,simons and kluivert disappointing..kees smit gives better work rate ,creativity and goal scoring threat…
    Brobbey also needs a look in,he is doing well at sunderland..
    Veerman is not oranje material,let him prove in big leagues..
    i still think Meerdink is better than Emegha….
    glad to see Deligt as RCB ,who is the best we have at that position also the man united captain..if bruno leaves today ,Deligt will be the captain on that time..
    Glad to see Timber play as RB.in his natrual spot,he is way better tthan jules kunde and dumfries at RB..

  • Emmanual says:

    koeman is great we have high hopes for WC

    We Beat absolute minnows like Malta, Lithuania and Finland and struggles against average teams like Poland, Austria, Bosnia & herzengovina, Hungary Etc…. In fact, Since Koeman took over from Van Gaal Netherlands have been beaten by every single team considered their equal or above them. They have also drawn or beaten by teams said to be average but solid teams. \
    Here is the compilation of Netherlands games since Koeman took over the team.

    Against Bigger teams

    FRANCE 4 NETHERLANDS 0
    CROATIA 4 NETHERLANDS 2
    ITALY 3 NETHERLANDS 2
    FRANCE 2 NETHERLANDS 1
    GERMANY 2 NETHERLANDS 1
    FRANCE 0 NETHERLANDS 0
    AUSTRIA 3 NETHER;LANDS 2
    ENGLAND 2 NETHERLANDS 1
    GERMANY 2 NETHERLANDS 2
    GERMANY 1 NETHERLANDS 0
    SPAIN 2 NETHERLANDS 2
    SPAIN 3 NETHERLANDS 3

    And Whom did they beat??? here is the List

    Gibraltar 0 Netherlands 3
    Greece 0 Netherlands 3
    Ireland 1 Netherlands 2
    Greece 0 Netherlands 1
    Ireland 0 Netherlands 1
    Gibraltar 0 Netherlands 6
    Scotland 0 Netherlands 4
    Iceland 0 Netherlands 4
    Poland 1 Netherlands 2
    Romania 0 Netherlands 3
    Turkiye 1 Netherlands 2
    Bosnia Herzengovina 2 Netherlands 5
    Hungary 0 Netherlands 4
    Finland 0 Netherlands 2
    Malta 0 Netherlands 8
    Lithuania 2 Netherlands 3
    Lithuania 0 Netherlands 4

    Against Solid Average teams

    Austria 3 Netherlands 2
    Turkiye 0 netherlands 1 (Netherlands Escapes against Red Carded Turkiye)
    Hungary 1 Netherlands 1
    Bosnia and Herzengovina 1 Netherlands 1
    Poland 1 Netherlands 1
    Poland 1 Netherlands 1

    Also to conclude, if there was one game there was worthy of being praiseworthy then it was the games against Spain. In both those games The Dutch played commendably well.

  • wilson says:

    Just wanna say the last quarter of the match was more entertaining and free flow with the subs on than those who started.
    Especially when lang came on. I will say this again he shud be starting ahead of gakpo.

  • andrew says:

    Qualified!. Been following them too long to take qualifying lightly, it is such a slog. On to the next step, getting ready for the WC

    I liked Emegha. Not sure that the final quarter of the last qualifying game against a tired, dispirited Lithuania team tells that much, but he could have had 2-3 goals. it is sure nice to see someone who can get behind the defense, and will run into space.

    Reijnders can be deadly in the mf, but when Dumfries plays in his usual high position, and Reijnders drives forward as lieks to do, it can leave way too much space on that side for a counter. So what do there? He brings more than Gravenberch offensively, but not as much defensively.

    Then there is the Dumfries/Frimpong/Timber / De ligt (or Van Hecke) discussion. Though it doesn’t seem to be much of a discussion for Koeman—he appears settled on Dumfries.

    Lots of moving parts. It is always hard to know what makes a team gel. Best example is ’98. They looked awful in the first game against Belgium, and then Hiddink replaced Seedorf (one of my favorite players ever) with Jonk, and the team clicked. Time for Koeman to earn his money and figure it out…I know several people here are convinced he doesn’t have it in him to do so…I don’t know that he does, either…but he is the one with the final say at the moment.

    • Emmanual says:

      @Andrew stop nonsense

      Belgium Vs Netherlands 1998WC,was an astonishing match,that Belgium goal keepr was killer,oranje dominated,suffocated Belgium,even with 10 men they could not do anything..yes we didnt score,some days we cannot score some how..
      playing a super match and getting a draw is different ball game..They again drew with mexico after beating south korea…they were unplayable in every game,yes they condeded goals,but always they were better team…they looked little struggled only VS brazil at semifinal due absence of arthur Numan red card from arjetina match and missing overmars due to flu..Bogarde was injured Philip cocu had to play as defender..Stop nonsense about that team.

      • andrew says:

        Tiju, We’ve kicking things back and forth for a long time now, my friend, and I respect your opinions, I’m not denigrating that team. Fantastic performance in that WC. But against Belgium…, even up until the time Kluivert went out with his red card, they were were pretty blah…Agree on the third match against Mexico. Oranje was much better, and the game went to a draw only because they stopped playing in the latter part of the game. The second match against SK is when they found their game, and they were superb from then on. Don’t think I’ve ever been as despondent about a loss as the Brazil game, before or since.

        • Emmanual says:

          Andrew you are not getting it,i watched every second of that game..They played like killers,whether they score or not ,or forgot to score..They out classed belgium,i still dont know how belgium survived..Even after kluivert getting redcard,belgium was nothing..1998 team was dominant against every team they played..from start to loosers final..Lets talk only about this belgium game only..our argument is belgium game..

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuQPYy2hBIE

          • andrew says:

            Tiju, I saw the game , too. Hiddink replaced the central mf—adding Jonk and Davids—against SK. That wouldn’t have been done if he had been satisfied with the performance. We’re not going to agree, and that is fine—even a good thing. 🙂 Feel free to have the last word, and we can move on.

  • wilson says:

    Next stop . WC draws.

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